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Even though I had Finn duel many powerful foes, hardly any were true saber duels. In fact, I had him clash sabers with only three foes...
1. The Loyalist, Round 1
Until the Japan arc, nobody Finn faced was prepared for a Force user, except the slightly paranoid Armilla, who still used other tactics and no lightsaber. Then the Loyalist was sent by Renesmee to take Finn's head. Finn held his own due to Toni's training, but the Loyalist was very strong, fast and even smart. During the duel, Finn destroys the Loyalist's helmet and reveals he is his old friend turned enemy, Nines. But he still didn't win, and both would have died if the Nutty Poet didn't intervene, allowing Finn to escape.
2. Mori Ranmaru
Probably the toughest duel Finn had in my story. Ranmaru was out of Finn's league, and one of the Stormwolf warriors had to die to somewhat weaken the Master of Fire. Finn did everything he could, kept getting down, kept getting up. Each time, a little more damage. Q almost saved Finn by talking, but Ranmaru saw through it and cut off his hand. Finn fought Ranmaru again, and with a little help from Kit Fisto severed Ranmaru's right hand. Ranmaru simply offed himself as a response.
3. The Loyalist, Final Round
After Finn became a true Jedi, he was all but unstoppable until he reached the Boar News Tower and its top floors. Nines was his second personal challenge after the Gohma. This time, he is even tougher than before, even without his newfound Hellfire abilities, which were Finn's first taste of such magic. Like the other two times the two fought, Nines got very close to victory. Unlike the other two times, nobody saved Finn, as he saved himself and allowed the Loyalist's soul to rest in peace.
4. Kylo's Shadow
Zant's Shadows were the last obstacles before Al Astor and his bodyguards. While Leah fought Jacob and gave him what he deserved, Finn had a similar rematch with Kylo. This is the rematch we should have and never had in TROS (no thanks to Rey). But since Finn was far from Rey at that moment, nobody could stop this. Even though Finn shows how much he had grown since Starkiller, Kylo Ren was still a deadly foe and could stop multiple blaster bolts at once. However, the shadow no longer fought a runaway Stormtrooper who just wanted to defend his loved ones, but a trained Jedi. Even as it was Kylo's evil embodied in perfect condition, Finn came out on top and destroyed him for good.
1. The Loyalist, Round 1
Until the Japan arc, nobody Finn faced was prepared for a Force user, except the slightly paranoid Armilla, who still used other tactics and no lightsaber. Then the Loyalist was sent by Renesmee to take Finn's head. Finn held his own due to Toni's training, but the Loyalist was very strong, fast and even smart. During the duel, Finn destroys the Loyalist's helmet and reveals he is his old friend turned enemy, Nines. But he still didn't win, and both would have died if the Nutty Poet didn't intervene, allowing Finn to escape.
2. Mori Ranmaru
Probably the toughest duel Finn had in my story. Ranmaru was out of Finn's league, and one of the Stormwolf warriors had to die to somewhat weaken the Master of Fire. Finn did everything he could, kept getting down, kept getting up. Each time, a little more damage. Q almost saved Finn by talking, but Ranmaru saw through it and cut off his hand. Finn fought Ranmaru again, and with a little help from Kit Fisto severed Ranmaru's right hand. Ranmaru simply offed himself as a response.
3. The Loyalist, Final Round
After Finn became a true Jedi, he was all but unstoppable until he reached the Boar News Tower and its top floors. Nines was his second personal challenge after the Gohma. This time, he is even tougher than before, even without his newfound Hellfire abilities, which were Finn's first taste of such magic. Like the other two times the two fought, Nines got very close to victory. Unlike the other two times, nobody saved Finn, as he saved himself and allowed the Loyalist's soul to rest in peace.
4. Kylo's Shadow
Zant's Shadows were the last obstacles before Al Astor and his bodyguards. While Leah fought Jacob and gave him what he deserved, Finn had a similar rematch with Kylo. This is the rematch we should have and never had in TROS (no thanks to Rey). But since Finn was far from Rey at that moment, nobody could stop this. Even though Finn shows how much he had grown since Starkiller, Kylo Ren was still a deadly foe and could stop multiple blaster bolts at once. However, the shadow no longer fought a runaway Stormtrooper who just wanted to defend his loved ones, but a trained Jedi. Even as it was Kylo's evil embodied in perfect condition, Finn came out on top and destroyed him for good.
In one week, I am going to update my series. Lightning Dawn, Admiral of the militaristic Starfleet, wants to prove the Empire he serves is superior to the Resistance due to facts, and even Rancors are no match for him. Can Finn, who has now become a true Jedi, stand up to him?
It's actually a tough fight.
Who has this?
Lightning: Strength.
Both of these heroes have come a long way. Finn was struggling to fight an elite Trooper with a baton, while Lightning was struggling to carry a crate. The two have vastly improved since then. Finn managed to defeat powerful foes like Benjamin and Alastor, though he had help in the last one. However, he always had to use his head in such fights. His offence at best consists of bombs. But Lightning's Uniforce is enough to blow up Rancors and even mountains in one hit. Lightning could kill Finn in one hit if one of his strongest spells connects.
Finn: Intelligence
Finn's most obvious advantage. On the one hand, we have him, who has used the Force to sense weak points, set up creative traps, reflect projectiles and maximized the effectiveness of his weapons by combining them with the Force. On the other hand, we have Lightning, who charges head first, gets a beating, then someone else reveals the weak point, then Lightning uses the Uniforce. Plus, Lightning has the absolutely helpful (to Finn) habit of announcing his attacks.
Lightning: Speed
True to his name, Lightning is extremely fast. He comes from an alleged "master race", basically is for equines, magical or not, what vampires are for humans. Smug evolutions who can partially back it up. Finn is faster than a normal human, but Lightning has trained himself to have superhuman speed and claims he can run around a country with ease.
Finn: Arsenal
Lightning loves flexing about Starfleet's technology. His visor is not just for decoration, as it can see through disguises and analyze some monsters, and he also has the Rainbow Rod, which is a very powerful weapon which has to be activated by voice. However, Finn has more. His blaster basically destroys fodder before they can reach him, the lightsaber is effective in melee combat, the detonators are powerful explosives Finn can use the Force to make them home on targets, and the Microwave Beam is about as powerful as the Rod, only it works by pulling the trigger and not voice.
Lightning: Durability
This one is a bit close. Both fighters can tank a lot of stuff, with Finn surviving a saber in the back, vampires, Ranmaru's flames and a beatdown from Alastor. However, Lightning has partial resistance to spells, something Finn does not have if we exclude mind control. The winged unicorn can shrug off moderate fireballs and magic beams. Finn will live through, but take damage.
Finn: More practical abilities
While Lightning's Uniforce is much stronger than Finn's best attack, Finn's abilities are more versatile. Finn can read minds, has strong telekinesis and can sense things he can't see, like being invisible, behind him or too fast, like the vampires. He has a destructive spin that will demolish anyone who charges head first and can make his bombs home on targets. Without seeking (and being tricked by) heat. Overall, Finn can do more than infuse his punches to hit harder and beams, unlike his adversary.
Lightning: Can block mental tricks
Both have strong mental resistance, but only Finn can read minds, so only his effectiveness can be affected. He basically cannot mind read Lightning and has to outsmart him the traditional way, because brute force will not work. This makes the battle harder for the human.
Finn: Friendship
Yes. Friendship. The two have comparable determination, and believe in themselves, Lightning moreso. So what has Finn more? Friends he cares about. He will go all-out, because he worries about the safety of those he loves, even the more powerful ones than himself. This helps him overcome his own fears and fight better.
Lightning: Flight
Finn's Force abilities are great, but not like Rey's, who can float. He is stuck on the ground, unlike Poe and Rey. Lightning doesn't need to do so, because he has his wings. With these, he can bombard Finn using his Rainbow Rod, or track him down with ease.
Finn: More open-minded
Lightning's mindset: Grand Ruler is always right and I must do what he says. If I can't overpower an enemy, I must power-up. Finn can adapt to his enemy, change his strategies, and question whatever bullshit others try to feed him. He can counter his inability to read Lightning's mind by studying his announced special attacks mid-fight, change strategies, even do psychological warfare.
Bonus: Tie: Determination
Both have a trait that makes them formidable. They do not give up. They can be knocked down, but will easily get back up more than once. They also have values they fight for. Lightning has belief in himself, Finn has friendship and freedom.
It's actually a tough fight.
Who has this?
Lightning: Strength.
Both of these heroes have come a long way. Finn was struggling to fight an elite Trooper with a baton, while Lightning was struggling to carry a crate. The two have vastly improved since then. Finn managed to defeat powerful foes like Benjamin and Alastor, though he had help in the last one. However, he always had to use his head in such fights. His offence at best consists of bombs. But Lightning's Uniforce is enough to blow up Rancors and even mountains in one hit. Lightning could kill Finn in one hit if one of his strongest spells connects.
Finn: Intelligence
Finn's most obvious advantage. On the one hand, we have him, who has used the Force to sense weak points, set up creative traps, reflect projectiles and maximized the effectiveness of his weapons by combining them with the Force. On the other hand, we have Lightning, who charges head first, gets a beating, then someone else reveals the weak point, then Lightning uses the Uniforce. Plus, Lightning has the absolutely helpful (to Finn) habit of announcing his attacks.
Lightning: Speed
True to his name, Lightning is extremely fast. He comes from an alleged "master race", basically is for equines, magical or not, what vampires are for humans. Smug evolutions who can partially back it up. Finn is faster than a normal human, but Lightning has trained himself to have superhuman speed and claims he can run around a country with ease.
Finn: Arsenal
Lightning loves flexing about Starfleet's technology. His visor is not just for decoration, as it can see through disguises and analyze some monsters, and he also has the Rainbow Rod, which is a very powerful weapon which has to be activated by voice. However, Finn has more. His blaster basically destroys fodder before they can reach him, the lightsaber is effective in melee combat, the detonators are powerful explosives Finn can use the Force to make them home on targets, and the Microwave Beam is about as powerful as the Rod, only it works by pulling the trigger and not voice.
Lightning: Durability
This one is a bit close. Both fighters can tank a lot of stuff, with Finn surviving a saber in the back, vampires, Ranmaru's flames and a beatdown from Alastor. However, Lightning has partial resistance to spells, something Finn does not have if we exclude mind control. The winged unicorn can shrug off moderate fireballs and magic beams. Finn will live through, but take damage.
Finn: More practical abilities
While Lightning's Uniforce is much stronger than Finn's best attack, Finn's abilities are more versatile. Finn can read minds, has strong telekinesis and can sense things he can't see, like being invisible, behind him or too fast, like the vampires. He has a destructive spin that will demolish anyone who charges head first and can make his bombs home on targets. Without seeking (and being tricked by) heat. Overall, Finn can do more than infuse his punches to hit harder and beams, unlike his adversary.
Lightning: Can block mental tricks
Both have strong mental resistance, but only Finn can read minds, so only his effectiveness can be affected. He basically cannot mind read Lightning and has to outsmart him the traditional way, because brute force will not work. This makes the battle harder for the human.
Finn: Friendship
Yes. Friendship. The two have comparable determination, and believe in themselves, Lightning moreso. So what has Finn more? Friends he cares about. He will go all-out, because he worries about the safety of those he loves, even the more powerful ones than himself. This helps him overcome his own fears and fight better.
Lightning: Flight
Finn's Force abilities are great, but not like Rey's, who can float. He is stuck on the ground, unlike Poe and Rey. Lightning doesn't need to do so, because he has his wings. With these, he can bombard Finn using his Rainbow Rod, or track him down with ease.
Finn: More open-minded
Lightning's mindset: Grand Ruler is always right and I must do what he says. If I can't overpower an enemy, I must power-up. Finn can adapt to his enemy, change his strategies, and question whatever bullshit others try to feed him. He can counter his inability to read Lightning's mind by studying his announced special attacks mid-fight, change strategies, even do psychological warfare.
Bonus: Tie: Determination
Both have a trait that makes them formidable. They do not give up. They can be knocked down, but will easily get back up more than once. They also have values they fight for. Lightning has belief in himself, Finn has friendship and freedom.
Because even if two people have the same type of power, they can have their own fighting style. What does each one have that the other hasn't?
Rey: Mind control
Even in TFA, it took Rey just three tries to Mind Trick a Stormtrooper. Being a Palpatine and a very powerful Jedi, her skills with Mind Tricks are extraordinary. She can even trick Stormtroopers into infighting. Finn isn't as strong as her even in NT, and he also despises mind control, so he never uses or tries to use it.
Finn: Guiding blaster bolts
Finn does not depend on melee combat, because both of the Stormwolf Timeline's female leads outclass him. However, his skills with the blaster are nearly unmatched. After Master Toni's training, he improves even more and can now use the Force to guide his blaster bolts, making sure they don't miss or even strike with many shots at once, useful against vampires and their regeneration. He also does that with his detonators. The result? Homing and hard to fool C4!
Rey: Force Lightning
Sometimes, bloodline can be very helpful. Rey's Lightning could destroy a ship in TROS, and I did make it able to match the Hatemonger's, who wasn't as strong as Rey, but was much more evil. While Finn has to rely on weapons, Rey has a very powerful and focused ranged attack unarmed, which helped her lots of times.
Finn: Imprint immunity
Rey's mental shield is powerful, able to resist Kylo's invasion of her mind, and she also can resist most mind control or mind reading attempts. Her resistances are high, but... she is still vulnerable to soulbonds, which affect souls obviously. Finn also almost imprints once, on Armilla, but he manages to resist it. Close to that, the only thing Finn and Rey share and the former has stronger is the resistance to mind control. At everything else, like mind reading, Force Push or sensing things, Rey is still ahead even in the end of the story.
Rey: Force Heal
There are some more powers exclusive to Rey, like lifting rocks with her foot or throwing her saber like a boomerang, but this takes the cake. Because if not for the way she used it in TROS, Finn would know it too. His pride backfired, since it robbed him of a skill that is useful and suits him. Rey can use it very well, and it is the reason Virago managed to join Stormwolf, defend Poe and save the Galaxy.
Finn: Whirlwind of Destiny
Rey's saber, a double yellow, far outclasses Finn's common single blue, making a better projectile, blocking and striking faster and easier. But Finn is more used to a single blade and can basically spin like a tornado, striking so fast he can melt an armor of thick ice before it regenerates, and it did so in a second.
Rey: Mind control
Even in TFA, it took Rey just three tries to Mind Trick a Stormtrooper. Being a Palpatine and a very powerful Jedi, her skills with Mind Tricks are extraordinary. She can even trick Stormtroopers into infighting. Finn isn't as strong as her even in NT, and he also despises mind control, so he never uses or tries to use it.
Finn: Guiding blaster bolts
Finn does not depend on melee combat, because both of the Stormwolf Timeline's female leads outclass him. However, his skills with the blaster are nearly unmatched. After Master Toni's training, he improves even more and can now use the Force to guide his blaster bolts, making sure they don't miss or even strike with many shots at once, useful against vampires and their regeneration. He also does that with his detonators. The result? Homing and hard to fool C4!
Rey: Force Lightning
Sometimes, bloodline can be very helpful. Rey's Lightning could destroy a ship in TROS, and I did make it able to match the Hatemonger's, who wasn't as strong as Rey, but was much more evil. While Finn has to rely on weapons, Rey has a very powerful and focused ranged attack unarmed, which helped her lots of times.
Finn: Imprint immunity
Rey's mental shield is powerful, able to resist Kylo's invasion of her mind, and she also can resist most mind control or mind reading attempts. Her resistances are high, but... she is still vulnerable to soulbonds, which affect souls obviously. Finn also almost imprints once, on Armilla, but he manages to resist it. Close to that, the only thing Finn and Rey share and the former has stronger is the resistance to mind control. At everything else, like mind reading, Force Push or sensing things, Rey is still ahead even in the end of the story.
Rey: Force Heal
There are some more powers exclusive to Rey, like lifting rocks with her foot or throwing her saber like a boomerang, but this takes the cake. Because if not for the way she used it in TROS, Finn would know it too. His pride backfired, since it robbed him of a skill that is useful and suits him. Rey can use it very well, and it is the reason Virago managed to join Stormwolf, defend Poe and save the Galaxy.
Finn: Whirlwind of Destiny
Rey's saber, a double yellow, far outclasses Finn's common single blue, making a better projectile, blocking and striking faster and easier. But Finn is more used to a single blade and can basically spin like a tornado, striking so fast he can melt an armor of thick ice before it regenerates, and it did so in a second.
Note: I assume the Force can sense Stands here.
After Chapter 32, I admittedly did buff Finn a lot. Now he is a Jedi, can read minds and defend his own, sense most things with the Force and use telekinesis, as well as many weapons.
However, he still has his limits.
And a lot of the Jojo cast are still above him. Here are 5 baddies he can and 5 he can't beat.
Can: Alessi
Alessi is a coward with an axe. His Stand can turn people into children. He is pretty unlucky, as adult Finn could easily win even before he discovered he had the Force, as he beat a trained and armored coward with little to no help. Even if his Stand works, he still won't stand a chance against someone who was trained how to kill as a small child.
Can't: Santana
Yes, he is weak for a Pillar Man. Yes, he will get shot before he is in range, especially if he takes his time. Yes, this version of Finn can take on vampires and win. No, the human still doesn't stand a chance. Santana is still a Pillar Man who can eat vampires for breakfast... literally, and regenerate pretty quickly and easily. Once he reaches Finn, he has already won.
Can: Bruford
Let's go to the opposite scale of the undead. Bruford is one of the few zombies who were a threat to Jonathan, a competent swordsman who is also pretty smart. However, in the Japan arc, Finn did fight a similar honorable warrior who was far stronger and... barely, with a LOT of help and some sacrifices, but still won. The saber can cut vampires, so it is strong enough for any zombie. It would be a good fight, but Bruford would fall with a smile.
Can't: N'Doul
This blind man is no joke at all. He can compensate for his blindness with sound, and Finn doesn't have a tenth of his range and senses, not even fully trained. He would have no idea what hit him, even if he sensed the water. And the water is pretty damn powerful too.
Can: Mariah
I will be honest, before his training (aka right after TROS) he would lose unless he was careful enough to avoid the electrical outlet and just shoot her. After the training, he can use the Force far better, which would allow him to nearly perfectly counter the magnetism and sense the outlet. Plus, the Force can lift rocks, Mariah can't. Mariah will only win if Finn falls for the trap and attracts a vehicle or something similar.
Can't: Ghihaccio
This Stand user is way too powerful for Finn. He can use his icy Stand to create an armor that hardly anything can penetrate. Even if the lightsaber can, Finn would have to get close and be frozen to the absolute zero. Which is also his chance at beating Gihaccio.
Can: Hol Horse
Another guy he can beat without the Jedi training, right after Exegol. When his powers amount to sensing things he can't see. Hol Horse's Stand is a gun with guided bullets. He still struggles to hit a target, though he does succeed sometimes, and when he does, he can deal good damage.
All Finn can do with no training is to sense the bullets and be a crack shot... he could win by landing a hit first. With the Jedi training, no contest. Especially when he starts guiding his shots too.
Can't: J. Geil
Just because Geil deserves to die and Finn to live doesn't mean it will happen. J.Geil can invade any mirror, even someone's eyes. So, he could find a way to ambush even an average Force-Sensitive, and Finn isn't above average.
Can: Staits
Straits is actually very powerful, he can curbstomp four zombies at once and as an undead is a very no-nonsense enemy. The odds are actually 60-40 in his favor. Still, fully trained Finn does stand a chance, because the lightsaber can destroy vampires easily, being a hot stake of hard light for them. A vampire with Hamon is also weaker than usual. If Finn can outsmart Straits, since he uses his head against stronger enemies, and avoid those Space Ripper Stingy Eyes, he can actually claim victory. Straits is maybe the strongest Jofoe that Finn stands a chance against.
Can't: Vanilla Ice
The most loyal minion of Dio, even more than Wang Chan, Enya or even Pucci. (He is obsessed to the point genuine friendship sounds aloof, though Pucci is even more effective.)
Just because a saber can kill vampires and Finn can wield it doesn't mean he can beat this one. Ice can surround himself with a powerful void, instantly destroying whatever it touches, even the lightsaber. Plus, the void can't be sensed with anything, so the Force would do jack. Both would be disgusted by each other's values and go all-out, but Ice would win at the first charge.
After Chapter 32, I admittedly did buff Finn a lot. Now he is a Jedi, can read minds and defend his own, sense most things with the Force and use telekinesis, as well as many weapons.
However, he still has his limits.
And a lot of the Jojo cast are still above him. Here are 5 baddies he can and 5 he can't beat.
Can: Alessi
Alessi is a coward with an axe. His Stand can turn people into children. He is pretty unlucky, as adult Finn could easily win even before he discovered he had the Force, as he beat a trained and armored coward with little to no help. Even if his Stand works, he still won't stand a chance against someone who was trained how to kill as a small child.
Can't: Santana
Yes, he is weak for a Pillar Man. Yes, he will get shot before he is in range, especially if he takes his time. Yes, this version of Finn can take on vampires and win. No, the human still doesn't stand a chance. Santana is still a Pillar Man who can eat vampires for breakfast... literally, and regenerate pretty quickly and easily. Once he reaches Finn, he has already won.
Can: Bruford
Let's go to the opposite scale of the undead. Bruford is one of the few zombies who were a threat to Jonathan, a competent swordsman who is also pretty smart. However, in the Japan arc, Finn did fight a similar honorable warrior who was far stronger and... barely, with a LOT of help and some sacrifices, but still won. The saber can cut vampires, so it is strong enough for any zombie. It would be a good fight, but Bruford would fall with a smile.
Can't: N'Doul
This blind man is no joke at all. He can compensate for his blindness with sound, and Finn doesn't have a tenth of his range and senses, not even fully trained. He would have no idea what hit him, even if he sensed the water. And the water is pretty damn powerful too.
Can: Mariah
I will be honest, before his training (aka right after TROS) he would lose unless he was careful enough to avoid the electrical outlet and just shoot her. After the training, he can use the Force far better, which would allow him to nearly perfectly counter the magnetism and sense the outlet. Plus, the Force can lift rocks, Mariah can't. Mariah will only win if Finn falls for the trap and attracts a vehicle or something similar.
Can't: Ghihaccio
This Stand user is way too powerful for Finn. He can use his icy Stand to create an armor that hardly anything can penetrate. Even if the lightsaber can, Finn would have to get close and be frozen to the absolute zero. Which is also his chance at beating Gihaccio.
Can: Hol Horse
Another guy he can beat without the Jedi training, right after Exegol. When his powers amount to sensing things he can't see. Hol Horse's Stand is a gun with guided bullets. He still struggles to hit a target, though he does succeed sometimes, and when he does, he can deal good damage.
All Finn can do with no training is to sense the bullets and be a crack shot... he could win by landing a hit first. With the Jedi training, no contest. Especially when he starts guiding his shots too.
Can't: J. Geil
Just because Geil deserves to die and Finn to live doesn't mean it will happen. J.Geil can invade any mirror, even someone's eyes. So, he could find a way to ambush even an average Force-Sensitive, and Finn isn't above average.
Can: Staits
Straits is actually very powerful, he can curbstomp four zombies at once and as an undead is a very no-nonsense enemy. The odds are actually 60-40 in his favor. Still, fully trained Finn does stand a chance, because the lightsaber can destroy vampires easily, being a hot stake of hard light for them. A vampire with Hamon is also weaker than usual. If Finn can outsmart Straits, since he uses his head against stronger enemies, and avoid those Space Ripper Stingy Eyes, he can actually claim victory. Straits is maybe the strongest Jofoe that Finn stands a chance against.
Can't: Vanilla Ice
The most loyal minion of Dio, even more than Wang Chan, Enya or even Pucci. (He is obsessed to the point genuine friendship sounds aloof, though Pucci is even more effective.)
Just because a saber can kill vampires and Finn can wield it doesn't mean he can beat this one. Ice can surround himself with a powerful void, instantly destroying whatever it touches, even the lightsaber. Plus, the void can't be sensed with anything, so the Force would do jack. Both would be disgusted by each other's values and go all-out, but Ice would win at the first charge.
